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Monday, October 20, 2008

We are missing Hleb and Flamini badly and Clichy is not human

By Eros

I see you guys weren’t very happy with the article posted here a few days ago detailing the failings of the team and some ideas on how to improve the squad so as to give us a better chance for some much needed silverware this year.

Well I’ll give my two cents about both the Everton game and the previous post and please feel free to suitably shoot me down too if you wish….

Firstly what 70’s said is clearly not Rocket science. He said get a big defender to deal with the high ball and also buy someone that can replace Flamini effectively.

He also said Hleb was a good player and that we don’t know how Edy is going to be when he gets back, which are both true.

For all the frustration that sometimes accompanied him, Hleb was one of our outstanding players and a major reason that we got close to Utd and Chelsea last year.

He always set up chances or created space for the rest of the team to play their stuff. Testament to how good he was is that Cesc to this day is raving about him.

He was the only player in the team that could slow the tempo down and draw defenders out of position which was extremely useful against defensive teams.

Last year for the first time since 2004 we didn’t drop many points against mid to lower tier teams. If we had beaten Liverpool at the Emirates as we should have then we would have been within a win of the title!

I know we dropped points home and away to Birmingham and also had a bad run after the tackle on Eduardo but if we had won a game against the big four at home we would have been right there…

Flamini has not been replaced and that I also feel was a mistake especially watching Xavi Alonso having a blinding season with Liverpool.

I can’t help but think whether those few extra million pounds they wanted were not worth it considering the improvement it would have made to our title chances.

But as always Wenger was prudent and said no since he was cup tied in the Champions League. Benitez got lucky as who knows how they would have done with Barry instead of Alonso.

The defence thing I’m not so sure about, currently we have probably the quickest back four in the league if not the world. That is mightily important to Arsene as both his fullbacks spend more time high up the pitch attacking than they do defending.

Without the pace of Gallas and Toure we would be completely exposed to the counter attack as we saw a number of times with Senderos last year.

With that in mind pick your poison; is it set pieces and long balls or getting caught on the counter?

If there is a tall fast no nonsense defender that is quick with an astute positional sense that can also play a bit please feel free to point him out, personally I don’t know of one.

Against Everton we started very sluggishly as we are used to doing after the international break. We went one behind and Everton had a few chances to go 2 up but thankfully they didn’t. After the half hour mark we gained control of the game and never really looked back.

From where I am sitting at the Emirates I can see a few worrying things however.

We still can’t defend a corner to save our lives, miss too many chances and have a bad habit of conceding a goal with the first shot on target. Almunia is suspect coming for the ball and Clichy had to bail him out again today clearing the ball off the line.

We need Sagna back before the Manchester Utd game as both Rooney and Ronaldo seem to be getting into their stride.

Denilson got caught ball watching a couple of times especially in the first half allowing Yakubu to break through the midfield and run at our defence.

He improved in the second after instructions, I suspect, for him to sit back and allow Fabregas to orchestrate play more.

Song is not a right back we all know that, he only started because Wenger didn’t want to start with Theo after the long trip to Belarus with England.

Van Persie is not sharp enough yet, he wasted a bundle of good chances that he’d normally take or at least put on target. It could have proved costly but thankfully it wasn’t.

After scoring four for Togo midweek Adebayor had an average game.

He is always a willing runner, however sometimes he leaves me baffled with the constant obsession of running away from goal to the left when there is a big hole in the middle of the opposition defence but I suppose he will improve that with time.

Nasri was not involved in the game in the first half but he scored a crucial goal to get us back in the game. That gave him confidence and he raised his game after that.

Clichy was magnificent as usual and my man of the match.

He was everywhere, intercepted every ball he could and run down the flank as often as possible.

Somebody should check whether he is human.

I have a suspicion that he has two hearts and 4 lungs.

I have no other way of explaining how he does so much running every single game.

Fabregas was back to his best after a couple of ok performances, displaying his full array of passing and dictating play as only he can.

Walcott had a huge impact coming on in the second half and took his goal very well. Let’s hope we’ll see a few more from him in the next few weeks.

Eboue was solid without being exceptional but he did give balance to the team when he went back to right back.

I still think he is one of our more consistent players this year, and if he manages to get through more games without any histrionics I think he will get more support from the fans.

It was good to see Diaby back and hopefully he can stay fit for a few games so we can see what he can do next to the little Spaniard.

Finally I left Song and Silvestre to the end. I though they had a solid second half where admittedly there were not really tested.

Silvestre did some Utd defending booting the ball clear at every opportunity and Song looked infinitely more comfortable playing at centre half. Silvestre looked a bit rusty but that was to be expected as this was his first game back.

Overall we played some good staff in the second half moving the ball about with pace and accuracy and I don’t think a lot of teams can live with us when we do that.

We haven’t played well yet this year. We have only seen glimpses of how good we can be and if we can get to the turn of the year and still be in touch we’ll have a shot.

I think compared to last year we’ll get stronger after Xmas – injury permitting – and hopefully we will have two brand new players – Rosicky and Eduardo - to help us with a tough run in.

I have to say though that we are competing against a Chelsea side that are looking pretty good right now even with a host of injuries.

They have a huge squad with class replacements in many positions. I think however that their new found sense of adventure will get them in to trouble sooner or later and will give the other three a chance.


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37 comments:

Real Social Dad said...

70's was moaning we has now world class cover in almost ever postion. Helb and flamini had one good season. So who knows if they would improve this year or not. Diaby is and nasri will be better than both of them nasri is already proving yet clichy does help magnify how good anybody is on left.
otherwise gd article

Anonymous said...

We have played well this season. Quite well at times. The first half performance at Bolton was one of the best Arsenal performances of the last 4 years.

Arsene played Song at right back. Get over it and grow up. It did not work out but Arsene also played Lauren, an attacking midfielder at right back before he became a pretty well-established right back.

A big centre half. Just hysteria if you ask me. Carvalho is same height as Toure/Gallas, and Terry is 1 inch taller.

We weren't exactly dominated in the air last season, so we don't have to be.

I just need Arsenal fans to realise that most of the improvement we can make have to come from within the team because we do have the quality.

Anonymous said...

Dont agree with the Hleb and Flam assesments. We have replaced Hleb with Theo. Theo has more goalthreat, more direct dribbling, is just as effective at dragging teams all over the place as Hleb was. Hleb never scored (would not have scored that goal against Everton, no way, ever), and didnt set up many goals. We dont miss him, he was luxury personified.

As for Flam, Denilson isnt as good as Flam, but Flam wasnt good enough anyway. Cesc and Flam isnt a Prem winning partnership. Just as Cesc and Denilson isnt. Its an area of weakness we are all aware of. But Flam wasnt the best solution. He was good for 1 season, but not great.

I would like to see Ramsey and Diaby play as a central midfield partnership. There's energy, bite and skill in those 2. The onus shouldnt be on Cesc to play every game.

Anonymous said...

I agree Flamini is our biggest loss, as he organised the defence and was a potential captian this year or next. From where I was sitting on Saturday I saw glimpses if Petite in Cliche. Since we will lose either Gibbs or Traore I suggest bringing one of them in to left back with Chiche having a trial at DMF. He reads the game well, has a good positional sense, has the pace, power, intelligence, and clean quick tackle to boot, and its not easy to get a clear header on the ball with him about. He is certainly worth a try, but not until the defence is Sagna, Kolo and Gallas are back as one new defender is enough at any one time. He will have the pace to catch a midfielder breaking through the middle so often this season, Saturday included.

Anonymous said...

That sounds a totally daft idea, so daft it might actually be the answer!! Clichy in the flamini role, with either gibbs or traore at LB.

He certainly has the engine, probably one of the fittest players in the PL.

Of the main article i think you make some logical and straight forward points, see my article on gunners4life.com, for some similar comments.

Anonymous said...

How can people say Flamini wasnt that good?!?! He gave Cesc the freedom to express himself and he covered every blade of grass on the pitch week in week out.. And when he wasnt playing and replaced by Gilberto or any other incumbent then we soon saw what Flamini gave. What Cesc needs is someone to do the mop up work and let him do what he does best, which is link the midfield to the attack, intricate passing and some goals with it.
I for 1 dont miss Hleb, a good a player as he was, he was also so infuriating, with his failure to shoot even being a few yards away from goal!! One thing i noticed on sat from Silvestre is that he challenged 95% of the high balls that Gallas n Toure wudnt of done, Yeah he started rusty but he has been there and won the lot at Manure and can only help out a very young team... And Clichy isnt human i think he is superman!!!

Anonymous said...

ole gunner, Terry (6'2 from espn profile) is about 2 inces taller than Toure (6'0). Carvalho is 6'0 too but Gallas is only 5'11. They may not differ much but given that both Toure and Gallas are not very good in the air and the average height of our team are shorter than many other teams (also all of our midfielders can't head well), our aerial weakness is compounded.

Anonymous said...

Joe,

Here's Terry's profile from the Chelski website. I apologise for linking to it. http://www.chelseafc.com/page/PlayerProfileDetail/0,,10268~5593,00.html

Here is Gallas'wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Gallas

He's 5ft 11 1/2.

To put it the Continental way Terry is 1.86m, and Gallas 1.82. Not a huge difference by any means.

The average age of Chelsea's centre back pairing: 6ft 1/2.


Average age of Arsenal centre back pairing: 5ft 11 3/4.

Less than an inch of difference.

Height is not the problem folks.

Anonymous said...

Also, I do not agree with the proposition on Hleb and Flamini. Hleb only flattered to deceive. He has a lot of touch on the ball but usually produced nothing. If you look at the stats, you'll find that Hleb contributed an average of less than 5 assists, and less 4goals per season of average of 30 games. Nasri has already scored 3 out of 7 games. According to stats, Flamini covered the most ground per match compared to the rest of the EPL. He was probably one of the best DM in Europe last season. He was him who gave Fab the creativity freedom.

Anonymous said...

Essentially I agree that there is not much difference in height of our CM with that of chelski's but overall, we can't deny that the overall team lack in physical presence and we are not good in the air. We bemoan in this aspect because Toure and Gallas are incompatible. Both are too similiar and like to attack the ball. Perhaps someone like Campbell to partner anyone of them would make our defence more solid. I am betting on Djourou or maybe Silvestre

Anonymous said...

That &0's fella chatted a load of b*llocks the other day, so you felt compelled to carry on diggin the same old hole?

Hleb is not the reason we lost to Hull or Fulham. A complete lack of hunger and a bad attitude did for us. Whyn that is, you'll have to ask the players.

Why they felt the need to act like a bunch of prima donnas when they havent won anything for 4 years is beyond me.

But it is a sad state of affairs when we have people tryting to re-write history. Hleb was a terrible signing when you take the entire time he was here and not just the last 6 months. His lack of end product and genral faffing about were a joke and thank fuck we have got rid and signed a player that is already proving to be a far better team player for us and who can actually shoot AND score; Nasri of course.

Flamini, or should I say, a terrier in midfield is definitely missing so far, but hopefully Diaby can come in, stay fit and do a job.

But, for gawd;s sake, give the history revisionism a rest fella.

Anonymous said...

Joe,

Silvestre is also 6ft. Same as Toure.

I don't agree with the incompatibility argument either. I think they're not in form. Period.

We weren't bad in the air last year so we shouldn't be this year. The only objective reason I see why we could be is that the league is taller in general. Look at the 3 promoted teams and they're very tall teams.

I think it's down to performances. Team performances.

If Gallas and Kolo play near their best we'll have a solid defence. Also our full backs are outstanding but they need to allow fewer crosses. Clichy especially.

Anonymous said...

On Adebayor: "he leaves me baffled with the constant obsession of running away from goal to the left when there is a big hole in the middle of the opposition defence but I suppose he will improve that with time."

I don't think he can improve that in his game because movement isn't something that you can really learn as a 24 year old. He needs to learn that he's not Henry or Pires. He doesn't need to drift to the wings, he can head the ball well so he should be in the box attacking the ball (which he doesn't do often enough), not making sideways passes from the edge of the penalty area.

As for Flamini not being good last season, that's just complete delusion. Any Arsenal fan can see he was one of our best players last season (he probably would've won player of the season had he stayed, I certainly would've voted for him, or possibly Sagna or Clichy).

Anonymous said...

Ole

I understand Silvestre is of the same height as Toure but I think he positions himself better in anticipation of aerial challenge. Also, our problems in defending long ball and setpiece were not new. On minimizing opposition's crosses, I believe it is not a duty shouldered solely by fullbacks. We need an ever present DM like Flamini to employ those basic triangular close down tactic where a full back check the run of the opponent vertically, the DM horizontally and the CM stays on guard in case one of them slips up

Anonymous said...

You know who we're missing? It's not Flamini. It's Emmanuel Petit. And oh, how we missy good old Tony Adams. Can't we have Stevie Bould back?

I don't know that there is ANY evidence that Silvestre is better in any department than Toure. I rate Silvestre as our last centre half. He's always been crap in my opinion.

But he played for the mancs so for the likes of you, that makes him automatically good.

Anonymous said...

They left, didnt they?
This arguement is like flogging a dead horse, they gone!!!

Better is a living dog, than a dead lion. Them not being here does not help us but who we have do even if they are not a fierce (in your eyes)!

Anyway, the players who are here are better!

Anonymous said...

To: Anonymous (October 20, 2008 7:58 PM)

"...but Flam wasnt good enough anyway. Cesc and Flam isnt a Prem winning partnership. Just as Cesc and Denilson isnt. Its an area of weakness we are all aware of. But Flam wasnt the best solution. He was good for 1 season, but not great.

I would like to see Ramsey and Diaby play as a central midfield partnership. There's energy, bite and skill in those 2. The onus shouldnt be on Cesc to play every game.


You need your head checked mate!
That Flamini was not good enough? Waow, that is shocking.

Austin Sports Performance Trainer said...

Really poor assessment of what Hleb brought to our team, which was not all that much. We do miss Flamini though.

Anonymous said...

What Flamini provided last season was imperative to our title challenge -- no two ways about that.

But if I had to pick between Hleb of last season and Nasri and a vastly improved Walcott, I'd probably pick the latter option.

That being said, Hleb's departure has set us back some, if only because he used to link up wonderfully with Fabregas. Cesc has spoken out about it because their chemistry was excellent.

Nasri will develop a similar understanding, but it will take time, certainly more than a handful of starts together.

On the other hand, Denilson and Cesc are incompatible, period. Cesc needs an athlete as a foil, a boisterous presence alongside him. Arsene won't sign anyone noteworthy because we have too many up and coming--and I stress the 'coming' aspect--central midfielders. No one is close to being the finished article, and if I were Fabregas I'd be pretty darn frustrated too.

Diaby is probably Wenger's ideal partner for Cesc, but if he gets crocked long-term again, AW will have to start reconsidering his options.

Anonymous said...

i think your wroong about the hleb part beaause we have walcott and i think diaby and song would make good replacments for flamini and dont forget we have played all of our games until now without diaby rosicky and edouardo so i think we are a verry good team

Anonymous said...

ole,

I said I am placing my bet to give Djourou a chance. Next is Silvestre and that is to partner either Gallas or Toure because it is proven that their partnership is suspectably fragile. I am saying so because I do not believe we will be recruiting anyone in this area in short term. What is wrong for giving other a chance to make this area more competitive when our automatic choices are not really performing? Also I just advocate for someone who is as tenacious as Flamini to complement Fab. I did not say we would be doomed without him. It is just a suggestion than we need someone a bit more defensive to cover for the back four. On Silvestre, he has won more titles than any of our current back four. It is unfair to accuse me of supporting him because he used to play for manc. I support him because he is an Arsenal player now & because he keeps Toure & Gallas at their toes.

Anonymous said...

you're the only blogger i've encountered who says we miss hleb. ever heard of a bloke called samir nasri ? in case u havent noticed, he scored few goals already this season, more than that dribbbly McNoscore ever did in a few seasons.

Anonymous said...

this debate is all extremely tiresome. but theres something I have to say one thing thats been bothering me on arsenal blogs since the summer.

Hleb was not useless, he wasnt shit, he may not have been on the end of many goals/assists but he was an integral part of the team that did so well until march with his link up play etc.

so many effing 'experts' who dont like to join a debate, just put forth an aggressive regurgitated spew of nonsense,which, should someone have a differing viewpoint, launch scathing immature attacks upon them for being deluded and stupid. and its both the wenger lovers and the detractors. i love arsenal with all my heart, but unfortunately the club seems to have attracted the biggest bunch of numpties for a fanbase. ffs, just support your team, debate fine, comment fine, but stop this proverbial shit slinging contest and get behind the effin team. no wonder they're lacklustre of late, no ones bloody supporting them

Anonymous said...

I dont think we are missing Hleb. He held our attacks up so many times with his dallying and just did not score enough goals for a forward. I believe Nasri is already showing signs of being a much more positive force, something along the lines of Pires.
Where we are struggling is that we just have not got a good ready replacement for Flamini - Denilson is not the answer. If Flam was still in the team then I think we would be right up there with Chelsea.
Wenger needs to spend some of the millions we fans are pouring into the Arsenal bank balance. He should address this problem in January but don't hold your breath. If we go trophyless again this season for the sake of one or two experienced signings then the current rumblings will get a lot louder

Anonymous said...

We miss Hleb badly. He gave our team a ball retaining structure and himself and Fabregas had a great understanding, so not only did we lose Hleb the player in the summer, we also lost a bit of Fabregas.

Spike is just a thick retard who wouldn't know a good playmaker if it hit him square on his fat face.

Anonymous said...

All you peeps saying we miss hleb badly i dont get why..we miss Flamini!

In his first 4 matches Nasri has equalled the tally of goals hleb scored over 2 seasons!


REALLY???!

Anonymous said...

Diaby was better in his first season than Flamini. Nasri adds more goals than Hleb. Walcott has now proved Bentley that is better to stay under Wenger. It's not about one seasons performance.. but consistentcy. There are soo many new faces in the first team now and i beleive they would jell soon. I feel fabregas is too sluggish this time and leave too much for Denilson to done. u can see it in the young guns who are more adventurous

Anonymous said...

Dude, seriously, enough with jerking off to Cliche. Every game you do it. He's not THAT good. A very good left back, but it's not like he scores any goals. He sets up a few goals and he is very good; but not a new Roberto Carlos or anything. Once he has an end product then let the wanking commence.

Anonymous said...

Yeah I agree Clichy is not that good yet but he is the best in the prem. He hasn't got an end product like Evra but has got more defending wise than the guy.
Hleb and Flamini were great. Hleb added balance, creativity though his end product lacked due to his decision making. Flamini did everything. Tackle, point, shout, position I could go on. Both could have easily carried on that and we would be proper title contenders.
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因此閃酒的技巧非常重要!.如何不讓客人發現的情況下.讓自己少喝一點.要和客人玩什麼樣的遊戲.才能把時間拉長.自己少輸點少喝點. 這些都是基本功!

上班時段:
以下打卡班次
下午:3點班、4點班、5點班、6點班 (每個班次往後推7小時,就是妳的上班時間)
晚間:7點班、8點班、9點班 (每個班次往後推7小時,就是妳的上班時間)
酒店出場:
(出場)台北市任何一家酒店,單純出場一定要出去。
註:有床的地方不能去 汽車旅館/飯店,包括私人辦公室!。不用擔心得罪客人,也不用怕被扣錢! 當下可立即離開~ 切記先保護自己。
酒店小姐出場接S 純屬個人行為。有些人想賺這個錢….但有些酒店小姐認為不需要!
但是不會有任何人去逼你 為難做自己不喜歡的事。
我梁曉尊舉個例子 女孩們會覺得更貼切 也比較淺顯易懂的邏輯 :
八大行業商品是(人),今天(妳)面前站3個人有~ 王陽明 康康 NONO
(妳)肯定會問 王陽明 可不可以出場接S ?!
至於王陽明是否同意 決定在於自己~。
總結:
在去酒店上班之前,一定要給自己定一個目標及方向,你必需了解自己為何來酒店上班,目的何在? 出發點是什麼?
給自己一個目標,例如:債務還清了就離開、存到了多少錢就走人、或者是打算做多久。
如果漫無目的的一直在酒店做下去,久而久之,就會習慣這樣高所得的工作,然後就會沉迷於其中,而很難脫離這樣的環境。
人對金錢的胃口只會愈來愈大!所以一定要給自己一個明確的目標。
還有…賺到的錢一定要存下來,存下來的才是真正賺到的。

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2020.04.06酒店工作在去酒店之前,一定要給自己定一個目標及方向,你必需了解自己為何來酒店上班,目的何在? 酒店打工出發點是什麼?
給自己酒店PT一個目標,例如:酒店上班債務還清了就離開、存到了多少錢就走人、或者是打算做多久。
如果漫無目的的一直在八大行業做下去,久而久之,就會習慣這樣高所得的工作,然後就會沉迷於其中,而很難脫離這樣的環境。人對金錢的胃口只會愈來愈大!所以一定要給自己一個明確的目標。還有…賺到的錢一定要存下來,存下來的才是真正賺到的。

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2020.04.12疫情當前,政府針對全台酒店工作、舞廳祭停業令,引發圈內人心惶惶,不少酒小姐、舞小姐頓失生計,下一步沒著落,生計即刻受到影響。《酒店上班網》獨家訪問酒小姐,現在小姐全放無薪假,不知道會持續到什麼時候,很多人也沒辦法做一般的工作,已經無路可走,「沒有人應該被這樣對待」,號召大家可以一起站出來,爭取自身權益。在林森北條通酒店打工的小姐「小遙」表示,事實上,酒店生意早就因為疫情影響,生意下滑,她自己酒店上班就被停班,如今政府下令停業,在圈內造成很大衝擊,因為是第一次發生,她做酒店3、4年,第一次看到店家全面停擺休息。她說,目前店家暫時說先關一個禮拜,連大學生/上班族酒店PT都要休息,很影響員工,小姐也都開始放無薪假,不知道會到什麼時候,嚴重影響到八大行業生計。很多小姐只靠這一行吃飯、養家活口,不少人是單親媽媽要養小孩,年紀比較大的小姐,出路就更令人擔憂。小遙說,小姐們的下一步都還沒有討論,還是先等待,畢竟才剛發生,只能順應店家改變營運方式,不然沒有其他工作可以做,有人想去找其他店工作,但全台都下令停業,每家店狀況應該都差不多,政府頒布政策,全部都關門了。她說,我們比較年輕,要去找其他工作比較容易,例如一般白天職場工作,她自己最近有找到一個打工,可是像其他有年紀一點的小姐,不知道還可以做什麼?還有些幹部類型已經吃定這行飯,幾乎職涯生活就是靠這行飯,勒令停業讓他們沒有路可以走。小遙指出,很多小姐經濟狀況沒辦法撐太久,圈子裡很多人在恐慌,店家突然停業、沒有工作,突然面臨要轉職,但小姐這個圈子要轉到一般職場很是辛苦,可能要花一段適應的時間,主要是工作內容差異,加上時間從本來晚上轉為白天,生理時鐘和心理因素都要調適,否則轉職就會遇到滿大的困難。她也說,會希望政府給予幫助,臉書粉絲專頁「酒與妹仔的日常」日前就發起連署活動,號召大家連署,請政府提出紓困方案,著重小姐勞動權益。她坦言,目前就是暫時這樣持續下去,希望小姐們在這一波站出來,爭取自己權益,連署或組成工會,否則無止盡下去,影響小姐生計,更有可能轉型成私底下性工作者,對疫情反而也不是好事,政府一味限制,卻沒有考量到這些可能情勢發展,八大行業不是限制停業就可以完全不營生,沒有一個行業應該這樣被對待。

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2020.04.20行政院召開「酒店工作紓困振興方案—個人紓困措施」記者會,表示「凡是酒店S公關有需求,甚至任何人、任何酒店打工行業,只要有需求前來申請,基本上政府在防疫這段時間,都會從寬認定,沒有資格限制八大行業。」
針對所謂「酒店PT從寬認定」本會認為衛福部應盡速公布辦法與申請表明列放寬限制為何,勿以對外宣稱「已解決酒店上班公關問題」打迷糊仗、濫開空頭支票,本會提供特種行業從業者不適用現行地方政府急難救助情況供主管機關參考,盼紓困能確實落實於有生計困難之從業者身上。
酒店小姐酒店公關雇傭證明:
以公關為例,現地方區公所之急難救助多須出具基於雇傭關係之非自願離職證明,而公關與店家或經紀公司皆無雇傭關係,無法列舉該項證明,建議以薪資單或店家通聯記錄代之。
制服店 禮服店 便服店 直播 傳播 飯局 訪視:
且家戶訪視極不利於隱瞞其職業身分之從業者,本會建議為節省行政成本並顧及從業者隱私一律免除訪視程序。
人籍不合一:
現急難救助須至申請人戶籍地公所申請,而許多特種行業從業者離鄉背井,工作地與戶籍地不一之情形在所多有,建議放寬以工作所在地公所辦理。
停業證明:
目前由中央疫情指揮中心勒令停業之497間酒店、舞廳,除遭稽查違法營業,否則不一定會接獲市政府停業公文,而急難救助要求從業者舉證停業證明極不合理,即便市府確有發公文勒令店家停業,從業者也難以向店家取得該文,故如需停業公文作為佐證,應由地方公所備有停業店家名單查核。
存簿:
申請資料應附有存摺與否,針對其影響獲補與否應有明確規範,因從業者係因疫情導致收入中斷而非中、低收入戶申請,應一併考量債務、親屬撫養等其他常態開支,不應僅以交易紀錄或存款作為判斷,且多數從業者薪資支領方式以現金為主,存簿內不會有收入資料。並非公關要求多現行方案不適用。資深酒店經紀表示若公關願「屈就」於現行「充電再出發」或「安心就業計畫」皆可申請,本會再次重申對於任何實際有助於生計之紓困方案從業者均非常歡迎、求之不得,沒有「屈就」問題!惟「充電再出發」、「安心就業計畫」皆針對有僱傭關係之一般減班企業,業界多數公關並非店家或經紀公司僱員,且停業不如減班仍有基本工資保障,尚有「薪資差額」可補助,並不適用於此計畫;即便是現行針對失業勞工之「失業給付」、「子女就學補助」或由政府提供職缺之「安穩僱用」、「短期上工」計畫,公關皆因無僱主投保就業保險或勞保,並不符申請資格。

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2020.05.07全國八大行業酒店工作本月9日停業滿1個月,小姐酒店S、經紀、業者無不「酒店上班苦哈哈」,八大行業有小姐甚至做起外送員,不過,行政院長蘇貞昌本月4日宣布擴大紓困,無保酒店PT工作者可領1萬元,且可當天申請,有酒店小姐衝去公所申請,但馬上被「打槍」。酒店打工小姐小荳說,日前看新聞說政府下令紓困加碼,跑去公所申請,但卻被刁難,須附上很多證明,例如提供戶口名簿、調查名下有無財產、家人有無財產、以往有無領過政府補助的失業救助金等措施,若有,就不符合資格。事後才知是今天開放申請,但公所人員給人的感覺就「霧煞煞」,不清楚申請資格,雖然她最後還是資格不符,空歡喜一場,但還是希望政府快提供更明確申請規定,讓受疫情影響的勞工安心。小荳說,自己從南部上台北工作,想賺高薪照顧父母,才到酒店上班,如今停業,目前偶爾接接飯局加減賺,但好像「臨時工」,收入很不穩定。
據了解,小姐屬經紀公司管理,但經紀公司並無真正公司行號,只是小姐領薪水的仲介單位,都是空殼,並非政府認可的公司;小姐及酒店經紀因此沒有工作證明,領薪方式也是現金,並無薪資條當作證明文件,申請有難度。酒店經紀人梁曉尊/梁小尊說,旗下小姐目前靠零星的飯局賺取台費,好一點的本身兼職美甲師,也有小姐白天當外送員加減賺,至少付得出房租、三餐有著落。酒店目前雖未開,小姐仍可透過飯局賺錢,業者也抓緊主導權,不讓獲利方式改變,不過再停業下去,規模小的酒店,不堪每月高房租及人事成本,恐遭併吞。

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2020.06.01酒店小姐的基本介紹跟工作內容背滿學貸信貸,優渥人生對妳而言好遙遠?快來哈囉舒壓,我在酒店上班的日子給自己一個機會,不敢來酒店上班-酒店打工的原因成就日收破萬高薪人生! 工作環境單純,安全更無憂。想脫貧?這次好機會別錯過。酒店上班-酒店兼職-兼差如何達成人生的第一桶金免繳保證金/免證件/不綁約。薪資超透明 月入10萬不是夢。服務: 安全面試, 最佳顧問, 單純保證, 安全呵護。一、酒店兼差不是一個複雜的工作環境?酒店小姐的收入有多少?有急用可以借支嗎? 職場須知 【酒店PT 】以一個〝單純〞陪酒的酒店小姐,一天的收入約3000~7000(不含小費)除非有〝額外〞的服務,一天可以領。酒店小姐藝名用疊字感覺活潑易記
雙雙 寶寶 安安 依依 佩佩 菲菲 婷婷 飄飄 麗麗
蓉蓉 師師 小小 圓圓 蕊蕊 水水 珊珊 堯堯 嘉嘉
冰冰 霜霜 柔柔 寧寧 薇薇 佳佳 露露 娜娜 暄暄
茶茶 琪琪 巧巧 妞妞 玲玲 妍妍 晨晨 莎莎 芳芳
點點 慧慧 真真 嬋嬋 珍珍 佳佳 婷婷 芊芊 多多
而且只要做酒店工作,這些都是無法避免的「有人覺得做禮服店就賺很多,又不會出場,我都覺得是幻想。你不是模特兒等級的,哪間禮服店收?傳播工作與酒店工作有什麼不同傳播小姐與酒店小姐的工作內容其實大同小異,但在工作內容以外卻有許多的大不同,我來為各位做出
便服店: #王牌酒店 #香閣里拉酒店 #麗園酒店 #龍亨酒店 #香水酒店 #金典酒店 #威晶酒店 #威士登酒店。
禮服店: #麗緻忠孝酒店 #麗緻敦南酒店 #維多立亞酒店 #百達妃麗酒店 #萬豪酒店 #金荷酒店 #大富豪酒店 #絕色酒店。
制服店:#麗都 #淘寶酒店 #金碧輝煌酒店 #金昌酒店 #金聰酒店 #君悅酒店 #盛世酒店 #奧斯卡酒店 #龍昇酒店 #龍昌酒店 #百富酒店 #台北東區酒店兼職。
2者不同的差異性,給各位做個酒店工作內容: 桌面服務,一般人通常會想偏,其實桌面服務
是很簡單,也很單純的一件事。桌面服務有以下幾個要點: 看了很多篇酒店文,好像很少有男生寫經驗? 我是酒店少爺,在滿18歲那天開始上班雖然不是第一次進去酒店,不過以工作人員的身份倒是頭一次,有一些沒有接觸過酒店的姐妹來找我應徵酒店小姐的時候,我們談的都很融洽,實際上她們也很需要來酒店上班賺錢,可是後來卻沒有來上班,不是沒有休假?那個是有簽約的對吧?

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2020.10.15不敢來酒店上班-酒店打工的原因?一名女大生陰錯陽差到酒店陪酒上班,怎料和男酒店經紀交往後,對方竟開始白吃白喝當起小白臉,最後還被騙到私娼寮酒店小姐的基本介紹跟工作內容賣身,女大生最後不甘心被騙便輕生,過世一年後,該男酒店經紀竟離奇死亡,背後竟藏讓人毛骨悚然的內幕。媒體人林裕豐上節目《新聞挖挖哇【酒店小姐】【酒店公關】》透露酒店公關酒店酒店小姐酒店上班到底都在做麼?,一名就讀國立大學大二的女學生,一天在西門町被人問要不要去當服務生,女大生想說打工也不錯便答應,怎料上班第一天就被帶去酒店陪酒、秀舞,之後還交了一個酒店經紀男友,對方還是個十足的小白臉,吃喝拉撒睡都要女方負責說服酒店兼差不是一個複雜的工作環境?,甚至連酒店經紀也不做了,專心花女生的錢,還騙說自己欠了酒店100多萬元走頭無路,女生還傻傻的去私娼寮賣身想幫男友還債,最後是私娼寮的老闆看不下去,告訴女生背後真相,其實男生根本沒有欠錢,只是想趁機洗她的錢,便放了女生。女大生一氣之下打電話和男友吵架,之後便從10樓跳樓身亡,沒想到事情過了一年,該酒店男經紀竟在同樣的地點跳樓身亡,林裕豐指出,當時就有種似曾相似的感覺,最後從監視器畫面發現,男生在電梯裡頭一直對著比較低的一個視線,且好像在對一個比較矮小的人講話,一直比手畫腳好像在解釋什麼,之後到了頂樓,走出電梯後便往下跳,林裕豐說,當時大家認為,一定就是當初他騙了這個女生,最後就被帶走。

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