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Wednesday, March 11, 2009

The formation didn’t work, Denilson didn’t perform but Almunia didn’t move. Ratings


By 1970’s Gooner

This was a nervy away Champions League performance. The team lacked composure and leadership. Giving away an early goal didn’t of course help.

For a start the formation which worked so brilliantly at the Emirates failed to work this time. There were two reasons for this.

Firstly Nasri kept himself mostly on the wing rather than come inside and dictate play like he did in the first leg.

Secondly that little maestro, Pizzaro, who only came on as a late substitute at the Emirates started this game and went on to dominate midfield, closing down those spaces that were so easily available in the first leg.

Van Persie was isolated up front with occasional support by the mostly ineffective Eboue and Bendtner. So no real penetration in attack and no real support from midfield resulted in a disjointed disappointing performance.

The most ineffective player was Denilson who had one of his worse games in an Arsenal shirt. He couldn’t tackle, kept giving the ball away and posed no real obstacle to Totti and co when they went forward from the midfield areas.

The defence however stood firm with Gallas and Toure continuing on their good form of late. This will stand us in good stead when our injured players return and the team starts performing as they should.

Almunia was also outstanding with two very good saves in the first half which kept us in the game. His most important save of course was the penalty for which he elected to stand still in the middle of the goal and the Roma player obliged by passing the ball to him!

The most important positive to come out of this game is the greatly enhanced team spirit.

Almunia 8.5
Sagna 7
Clichy 6
Gallas 8
Toure 8
Denilson 5
Diaby 6
Nasri 6
Bendtner 5.5
Eboue 6
Van Persie 6

51 comments:

James said...

A bit generous with Toure and Gallas given they handed Roma a goal which changed the match!

Anonymous said...

if nasri is a 6

Van Persie deserve a 4. he is really bad today!

hans

Anonymous said...

maybe a 3 for van not a 4 or whatever he was given

Anonymous said...

idiotic ratings

Kolo was terrible, VP was awful as was denilson

You might like to get on his back but Bendtner was a lot better than Nasri or VP tonight

Anonymous said...

If Bendtner, Van Persie, Eboue, Nasri were all giving the ball away cheaply.. what do you expect Denilson to do? I thought the boy did well and should be given credit...

Agree with James as well. Individually, the 2 of them did well but handing them that goal was a real let down and 8 is certainly over generous

Anonymous said...

When is Wenger going to see how unbelievably poor Denilson is?

Who were that last team to be a success without a solid midfield? Denilson is far from solid. Midfielders have a field day coming up against him seeing as he cant pass, cant tackle, cant win a header, gives the ball away frequently, crumbles under the slightest bit of pressure, has no upper bpdy strength for the physical battle and is easily sidesteps when players are running at him.

Get rid.

Anonymous said...

You must be jokeing. Bendtner was by far better then most of the team. The only really posing a threat. Diaby was clearle man of the match. He virtually run the midfield by himself tonight!

Anonymous said...

The main thing is we are through, we will hopefully have an almost full squad for the Quarter Finals and will not need Eboue, Denilson or Bendtner who were all predictably woeful (would any of those three get in the team of the other top four sides?). Well done lads now lets secure our Champions League place for next season and get to the FA Cup final.

Anonymous said...

Stick to finding out transfer rumours mate.

Your match rating skills are atrocious.

Diaby man of the match with a 7.5
Bendtner close behind with a 7.0
RVP doesn't deserve anything more than a 1.5
Clichy 3
Sagna got ripped apart by Vucunic too many times - 4

Did you watch this on a really messed up stream or something?? Try watching it on Sky at least before putting in such bad ratings.

Anonymous said...

You sure about that for Almunia, his kicking wasn't good tonight,his saves were good but you'd expect him to save all of them. It looked as if clichy had never played left back in his life his positioning was shocking and the sooner he realises he cant always use his pace to make up for his poor positioning the better. Demilson looked out of his depth and was chasing shadows most of the game.Diaby was very good but was nackered by the time extra time came. Gallas and toure did well,goal aside. The worst thing about the game though was that Roma tore into us from the start and didn't let up and Arsenal just didn't have an answer to it. It was as if they were waiting for someone to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and in fairness to Diaby he gave it a good go. The players need to have an honest look at themselves after this though

CESCisKING said...

Very lucky. It came down to who had the most nerve and courage. Arsenal could of very easily lost heavily tonight but the ref was very good. In my opinion Bendtner was probaly the best player in a arsenal shirt today although they all played poor.
I agree that Denilson was by far the worst player on the pitch today. His performance was poor and his penalty kick was even worse. I honestly cant seeing us winning anything with him in our midfield. Flamini/Fabregas was the best partnership we had in years. The key to Man u, Chelsea, Liverpool's sucesess is that they KEEP hold of all their best players and add each season. They would all be in our situation if they lost their star players each year. Tottenham are struggling when just two seasons ago just missed out on a CL spot due to food poisioning.(how lucky were we?)

Richey said...

I don't think Denilson deserves the type of criticism he's come in for. I'm not going to claim he stood out today, no-one did, but in a side which is lacking a DM, he is filling in that role pretty well but seems to get chastised for the way he goes about it. Okay he more often than not plays the ball square, and he may not be the biggest, but he does get himself stuck in a bit more and keeps the ball moving well. Diaby's insistence on having an extra 2 or 3 touches every time he got the ball, Nasri's inability to get involved las effectively as he did in the first leg and Eboue simply being on the pitch did nothing to help the midfield situation. Bendtner had his usual odd moments, which often fell apart once he reached the 18 yard box. A better team would have finished us off today. But the main thing is we're through, and an ugly win is still a win. I think the penalties will do no harm to the character and confidence of the squad and with key players coming back in the next few weeks (Dudu and Theo's lack of match practice showed) I think we can be optimistic about our chances.

Anonymous said...

You do talk rubbish!
Gallas & Toure? Good form? Did you see the goal?!? They were rubbish! Toure for me shouldn't be ahead of Djourou. He is poor, has been for over two years. His distribution is awful, his positioning that of a schoolboy. He should be dropped.
VanP has no service from midfield. Eboue has no final ball. But Diaby could emerge as the player we always hoped he would be.
This team needs only one thing - Fabregas. With him back we are twice the team we are now. And with him back and a fully fit Walcott & Eduardo, Arsenal will WIN the Champions League.

Anonymous said...

Bendtner and Diaby were the only ones to turn up.Nasri is fine going forward but does'nt want to commit to a tackle. Toure and Gallas were entirely at fault for their goal , although exactly where was Eboue in the build up whilst Sagna was doing shuttle runs between three players and exactly who was Denilson marking ?. It became obvious as the game progressed just how much we miss Fabregas.

Anonymous said...

Are you on drugs? Only a 6 for Diaby! He was by far the best player on the pitch. :-)

Anonymous said...

To me we are lucky to win today but tommorow with this kind of game i don't thnk so. We need need sharp strikers. Aerial balls is waste of energy bcz it all ends up in wrong hands, luck of communication almost cost us everythng. Apart frm keeper whom i gave all my credit and a bit hardworking clichy no one else deserve my distinction. Anyway we were lucky 2day coz it was Roma bt am afraid we dont have T.Henry,Pires,berkhamp or Reyes to see us in final maybe next time if Wenger decide to be a little more serious by his selection & signing or board change their minds by accepting other serious personel to take over until then enjoy our sexy football,90% of ball posession,99 corner kicks tht bear no fruit and 29 gaols aggrgt per season.

Anonymous said...

LAY OFF DENILSON!
How does he come in for special mention when nearly all of our defenders were pretty poor all evening? you're deluded and this constant scape goating of denilson is absolute rubbish, week in week out he gets slagged off when all in all he wasn't to bad, bar the goal that our two central defenders and clichy were responsible both denilson and diaby did enough to stop roma scoring, it's about time that people like you laid off denilson, he is highly underated, never injured and gets little or no credit for the huge amounts of work he does week in week out deputising for a missing fabregas, your match ratings alon and the fact you mentioned denilson in the title are enough of a reason to never come back on this crappy website, go and support someone else you mug cos you clearly don't know what you're talking about....

AusGunner said...

*rubs eyes in disbelief*

what a pack of moaning cunts.

We should all be delighted this morning/afternoon wherever you are. What the fuck is wrong with y'all? Cheer the fuck up, we're through!

Patman said...

Those are terrible ratings i must say. If you watched the performance properly you would be able to see our two centre midfielders although nowhere their best, were the main reason roma didn't make more of the game.

Anonymous said...

Toure and Gallas were good? What game did you watch? That was like watching a sunday league team defend against a professional team. We were dire and I am struggling to see how any one of the team could get good marks. Roma evidently wanted it more, you could tell by the way they hounded our players and moved the ball around. We however, panicked as soon as we got the ball and you saw players just hoofing it away! Eboue seemed to be the only Arsenal player that wanted to attack at times!! Make no mistake, we were very, very lucky to make it through last night. If we play like that against any of the other teams in the 1/4s we are in trouble!!!!
That said, fair play to the team as we did make it through and thats all that matters.

Anonymous said...

I sense that one or two of you have failed to form your own opinions, independently from a commentator. I watched the game in silence, abroad, and thought that Abou Diaby had one of his best games in an Arsenal shirt. Aside from his final ball towards the end and a reckless yellow card, I thought he was head-and-shoulders above the rest of the players. I also thought that Toure, goal aside, was excellent alongside Gallas. Denilson was effective, he was intercepting passes, however, I agree that he did not press play in a Flamini way, which would have been helpful at times.

Anonymous said...

Well we got out of jail tonight very poor performance, if it wasnt for almunia & erm baptista doin us proud we would be out! I dont even think their keeper had to make 1 save of note in 120 mins!!!

IMO Almunia & Diaby were the best performers, Bendy & denilson were ok, the rest were far from their best, Cant expect too much from eboue, back 4 were not assured & Nasri & RVP 2 of our so called CREATIVE best players were very dissapointing when we really needed them 2 perform in a BIG game :(

Anonymous said...

ps: Obviously the :( was because of the poor performance & i will say over the 2 legs we probably just deserved to go through & i am of course very :) we have!!!

Anonymous said...

clichy had a shocker! denilson was solid. the defending for the goal was embarrasing.

Spike said...

Once again, 70's Gooner (are you 70 years old? That would explain a lot) you are well off with your flawed report.

RvP was GARBAGE last night, but instead of stating facts, you choose to slate perrenial scapegoats Eboue and bendtner, who for me, were 2 of our better players last nite. They were both full of running and Bendtner was very direct and tried to attack at will, You talk shit, your blog has become a pale immitation of what it once was, basically, call it a day you tit.

Anonymous said...

For a defensive midfielder in denilson Arsenal sure haven't had alot of goals scored against them lately, so i say lay off him. For his age and no Fabregas next to him i think he has been excellent.
Simply he is doing his job.

Anonymous said...

Van Persie was powder puff. A player capable of world class moments but in no way a world class player

Anonymous said...

Lets stop moaning about our players, were in the qauter finals. So many times in the past we have played well and gone out , the momnet we play badly and go through we still moan. What do we Arsenal fans want? Look at the bigger picture.

Coxy said...

We got through simple. Lets forget about it. As for Kolo he was shocking. Never seen someone so scared of the ball and the occasion being captain he has to take charge and lead by example.

Anonymous said...

One of the worst games I have EVER seen. Would have expected a match of similar quality between two championship teams. Denilson is a contender for one of the worst midfielders ever to wear an Arsenal shirt, players like him, Eboue and Song only get in the team because Arsene has seen them come up through the ranks and developed a soft spot for them. Any other manager would have cut loose these average players one or two years ago. It is a sad state of affairs that we have lost some truly great players to accomodate these individuals. Bendtner tried hard but the most worrying thing is that he looks good until he gets in the box...not really what you want from a striker!

Anonymous said...

Van Persie was by far more awful than Denilson. Roma got there tactics spot on and that stifled our predictable players who seem unable to vary their play accordingly. That being said the boys have been improving in the last couple weeks.

Anonymous said...

I agree that Diaby and Bendtner were our best palyers on the night. Nasri always puts in a lot of effort. Clichy is really struggling this season. He has just not improved his defensive positioning at all and some of his tackling was really weak.The reason for too many touches from some of our players is that they were not confident in each other last night. RVP had a shocker . i know he had little support but he just kept on turning into their defenders all night.

Anonymous said...

i really dont know what game half of you was watching but bendtner was terrible he should not be an arsenal player he gave the ball away every time he got it and one thing i noticed the whole team were doing was holding on to the ball to much and not passing it clichy was doing it alot the only player that caused abit of problem when he came on was theo.

Anonymous said...

Why in gods name was Eduardo and Walcott on the bench until the 75th minute?!?!?!? And where was Vela? The heroes from FA cup tie were all benched. Is Wenger really thinking that Walcott was not a better option than Eboue on the right or Eduardo not better choice that Bendtner? He wants to lose this cup, badly!!! Next we'll see Ade in goal and Fabianki up front with Clichy....christ...

Stav said...

Well im glad we all agree...lol.

It was a tough match, Roma pressed hard and defended well and it looks as if we may struggle from now on...but it was only one match and we still went through. I think I would have liked to have seen us line up more positively to score a goal, maybe with one of either Eduardo or walcott start.

I have to agree that denilson did have a shocker last night, but he has performed really well over the last 20 matches and we should lay off. Lets face it noone had a good game and I think Denilson was highlighted because at least he still wanted the ball and consistantly picked it up in tight situations, unfortunately he also lost it...

Can we please stop playing Eboue...he didnt even get into any positions to fuck up this time and just seemed to wonder around in the 1st half without offering anything defensivly or offensivly...I have had enough.

We still have a chance of winning and with the return of Theo and Eduardo the team will improve.

Anonymous said...

DIABY WAS THE BEST ARSENAL PLAYER ON THE PITCH. REWATCH THE GAME> DIAABY WAS EVERYWHERE!!!!! I NORMALLY THINK HES PRETTY SHIT, BUT TODAY HE WAS GREAAT

Anonymous said...

denilson is very poor!!!!not help diaby at all.should not be in arsenal team.

Paulyt33 said...

van Persie didn't perform at all and worryingly hasn't for a month , we need him at his best for us to get anything from the season , other than him I thought we were very very lucky to go thru but we're in there now so come on the gooners !!!!

Anonymous said...

best game diaby's ever played, simple imense

Anonymous said...

What match were you watching son? The defense was terrible. Toure especially, can that bloke jump higher than 3 inches? Flat footed or what!

Sagna and clichy had poor games, clichy keeps getting found out lately, excellent going forward, not so good defending, 100% for effort though!

Denilson had a quiet game, I've never really rated this fella, it's going to take me a long time to be convinced otherwise.

Bendtner is showing signs of improvement and deserved a higher rating than Eboue rofl

Anonymous said...

Can you redo those marks or/and let the visitors decide as a comparison

MeteorMonster said...

As the poll results show, Diaby was the best player on the pitch.

Anonymous said...

I personally thought Nasri worked his arse off, he created some excellent chances which Bendtner typically wasted. He ran Roma ragged all nigt and scored a cracker of a penalty.

Gunwen said...

Our biggest mistake early on was approaching the game in exactly the same way as Emirates. Roma had ready answers. The whole in the middle was blocked and RvP was isolated. He is no Drogba and is far too predictable to be a lone striker. Nasri has no good tackle and was forced wide. Denilson and Diaby did enough to ensure we are not completely overrun. Save for the mistake leading to the goal, our defence was pretty good.

Ndoga Zvangu said...

Denilson does not deserve a place in the team.

The defence look poor because of lack of protection.

Just look at Liverfool/Chelski/Manure and compare with ours. Whether its Terry/Carvallo, Ferdinand/Vidic, Carragher/Skirtel, they have got extremely good midfielders in front of them.

Bottom line is the problem is WENGER

Anonymous said...

Van Persie was awful but here people are saying Eduardo should've started instead of Bendtner. Bendtner was better than Van Persie and the fact that Eduardo got a groin injury shows that Wenger was probably right not to start him. Walcott didn't even have much of an impact when he came on so to say that he should've started instead of Eboue is barely plausible.

Diaby was the best player, followed by Almunia. Denilson did have a poor game but at least he never hides from receiving the ball, he has the right attitude and is the player that tries hardest. Sagna had a poor game as well, and Clichy's been awful all season (much, much worse than Denilson), yet no one wants Clichy out of the team but everyone wants Denilson to go. Denilson has much more composure than Clichy and he's been one of our best players this season. Clichy has the right attitude but no intelligence, while Denilson has both, which is why he's been better than Clichy this season, yet everyone just remembers what Clichy can do (which he showed last season) but not what he's actually doing. Mind you, Clichy's not the only favourite that gets much less criticism than players who play better than him, Van Persie and Toure being two other examples.

Anonymous said...

It is useful to try everything in practise anyway and I like that here it's always possible to find something new. :)

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