Monday, December 24, 2007
Police data show Manchester United's Old Trafford as one of most unsafe Premiership grounds
By 1970’s Gooner
Sir Alex Ferguson has voiced concerns about the lack of security at the Emirates after the two sides drew their game there early last month 2-2.
Well, he will do well to look no further than his own back yard.
Police data, published by the Home Office, show that the club topping the League with the most fans arrested last season at Premiership grounds was Manchester United (195), followed by Chelsea (135) and Sunderland (119).
Newcastle and Tottenham came next, both with 117. Arsenal only had 80 arrests and was eighth in the table.
Football Related Arrests 2006/07 Season
1. Manchester United 195
2. Chelsea 135
3. Sunderland 119
4. Newcastle 117
5. Tottenham 117
6. West Ham 111
7. Manchester City 91
8. Arsenal 80
9. Aston Villa 77
10. Everton 70
11. Middlesbrough 68
12. Liverpool 64
The club with the most well behaved supporters was …Fulham with only 8 arrests followed by Charlton (17), Blackburn (21), Portsmouth (27) and Watford (22)
Almost 3,800 people were arrested last season at Premiership grounds, 8% more than in the previous season. Public disorder and missile throwing was up, but violent disorder fell.
The number of arrests for violent disorder, fell to 337, the lowest ever figure, from 358 the previous season.
Tottenham had the most fans arrested for this offence (30) while Arsenal had only 8.
But Manchester United had the most held for public disorder (98) and had the most banning orders issued to its supporters than any other club (90) twice as many as for Arsenal supporters.
And there's more.
Top of the League for alcohol offences was Newcastle and.... yes youv'e guessed it Manchester United (68) with twice as many offences as Aston Villa, Tottenham and Everton and three times as many as Arsenal (20).
So it's best for Manchester United to get its own house in order first before complaining about others.
Home Office: Statistics on football related arrests and banning orders- Season 2006/7
Posted by Arsenal Analysis at 6:51 PM
Labels: Arsenal, Chelsea, Football arrests, Manchester United, Newcastle, Tottenham
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Stats can be manipulated to make the facts look bad. When you look at the FACT that United had more than twice the amount of home attendances than most other Premiership teams then those stats do not look that bad.
Get over it.
Arsenal's attendances were near Man Utd's last season but their police data are no where near as bad as yours mate.
So face up to it!
Your ground on average holds 16k less than ours so how are you close??
Yes but the difference does not explain away Old Trafford's "bad" statistics compared to Arsenal's!
Look at how many games were played and the break down of home to away fans. Semi-final of the ECL and Final of the FA plus more fans 16K each game help explain. When you have the number of arrests per spectator attending come back otherwise Statistics and Damn Lies.
Also if you play Roma any time soon expect a sudden rise in your arrest rate.
Guys, Firtsly you've missed quoted the stats, you've overstated the figures. There are four main points to consider.
1) Police forces have different resources with which to police matches, the police presence at Old Trafford is much higher than at Charlton.
2) As stated earlier the average attendance at old trafford was over 15,00 people per game (thats a quarter of you stadium again - I wouldn't say thats near) so the number of arrests per season would be expect to be higher.
3) The cup stats (which are part of the total) take into account champion league, FA cup and carling cup stats. Man Utd had a longer champions league run (including a fiery encounter with roma that caught the headlines) and longer FA cup run. Arsenal Carling cup run was longer than Man Utds however attendances to watch the second team play in the Carling Cup are much lower.
4) Seeing as this argument was to SAF voicing his concerns regarding safety at arsenal, if you calculate number of supporters per home arrest for arsenal and for man utd you actually see that arsenal have 28,522 supporters per arrest and man utd have 31,108 supporters per arrest. So it seems that arsenal have a worse arrest record at the emirates than man utd do at old trafford.
Out of interest Fulham have the best record with 161,261 supporter per arrest and chelsea have the worst record with 12,580 supporters per arrest.
You have to note that man utd fans have the a worse away arrest record than arsenal as 60% of arsenal's arrests were at home whereas 60% of man utd's arrests were away.
Just my £2, but you have to look into the stats. You can't compare number of arrests of juventus versus rushden and diamonds and all the variations in between. You have to analyze results not just take them at face value.
you've said that old trafford is the most unsafe this is not true as it takes into account both home and away, you've manipulated the facts!
I'm glad u did this article 1970's. It leaves Alex "I am the King and Queen of the universe" Ferguson with egg on his red face! He should think before engaging that trap of his! It makes u realise what a great man Arsene "LEGEND" Wenger is.
Right on Wrighty7!
Does anyone even read the other comments and look into the stats. Use your brain, don't take things at face value. Your sounding as bad as a daly mail headline, always misinterpreting data.
You english will believe what you`re told to believe.
So eat your corn chickens
So, if City A arrests 10,000 drug addicts a day, while City B arrests 10 a day, which city is safer?
The answer is neither until you know the number of drug addicts in each city. Do you know the number of problematic fans for each club? If you use this article to justify any number, isn't that a circular argument?
Statistics are numbers. Conclusions should be taken with a pinch of salt.
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